The Church Renewal Podcast
The Church Renewal Podcast is a conversation for church leaders eager to see our churches refreshed by the gospel. The only fully sufficient reason that today dawned is that Jesus is yet gathering a people and using the church to do it. Come and join us as we dig into the ways Jesus is renewing his church.
Podcasting since 2020 • 115 episodes
The Church Renewal Podcast
Latest Episodes
Special Guest: Dan Werthman Pt 1 - Triggered to Transformed
Ever wondered why the same church conflict keeps showing up with different names? We sit down with intentional interim pastor and certified Christian conciliator Dan Werthman to unpack how family systems theory, shame awareness, and differentia...
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Season 4
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Episode 11
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23:55
Triangles & Traps: Staying Out of the Middle
Matt and Jeremy explore triangulation as one of the most common relational patterns in families and churches, often forming unconsciously as a way of managing anxiety or tension.• Triangles are the most stable relational form, which is ...
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Season 4
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Episode 10
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34:52
Anxiety and Leadership: Be a Circuit Breaker
We explore how anxiety moves through church systems and why leaders must act as circuit breakers who stay connected, calm, and clear under pressure. We ground the practice in biblical images of shepherding, trust, and identity secured in Christ...
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Season 4
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Episode 9
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34:27
She Came By It Honestly: Do Your Own Work
Leaders carry family baggage—patterns of conflict avoidance, expectations and wounds—into their ministry. Family of origin dynamics shape leadership instincts, blind spots and identity formation in ways that affect entire church systems.
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Season 4
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Episode 8
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39:16
Jack Shitama Pt 2: Leading Through the Anxiety
Jack Shitama joins us for part two of our conversation on family systems theory, exploring how Christian leaders can move from understanding differentiation to living it out in practice.• Tracing Jack's journey from discovering Friedman...
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Season 4
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Episode 7
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37:29
